This reminded me of Alvord. Mike how did the QR work out? I didnt get a chance to try it out, but I did play with it a bit and picked it apart.
Mike, tell us please.:D is it a or a or :dunno:

Quote: Originally posted by bigkid

Quote: Originally posted by betosoria   Hi, I was wondering if you have seen the release http://kiteattitudefr.votreboutiquepro.fr/largueurs/kit-larg... What do you think about it? Saludos. Alberto Hola Alberto. 441lbs is a lot of weight before it deploys, or more it says. That works out to be me, my buggy, my kite and Levi along with about 120 extra lbs. Also they recommend to replace it after a year, might be the rubberband breaks down and wont work after that.

I think this is a manual release and the translation is saying even a load that high won't prevent you from being able to release it. It doesn't indicate automatic anywhere.

I could have used an AQR on Sunday. Amazing how a slight lapse in focus can go so wrong so fast.
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p.s. NaSCa has a surprising amount of lift.

the MK splitter worked very well. with a couple tweaks it will be very reliable. I will post more about this later when I'm not supposed to be working

You didn't realize you could fly did you Sean? Heh I assume you fared reasonably well.

I did realize could fly, and this reaffirmed I not overly fond of it. It went great right up to the landing part: rag dolled leaps to mind
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I have tried the MK Splitter too....got to say, I love it, not only do I have zero worry now, it also is the best swivel I have ever used and on top of that, now I am not using :-

a Wichard,
aTop Furler,
a D-ring to attach
a snap block

my handles and strop line is much closer to me....

I did my best to translate the web site too MK Splitter Race

The construction is superb, and I have it on authority these guys make zero profit on these, what you pay for these is purely cost price which is commendable

..to fully understand the system and appreciate it. The pics and write up might be a little difficult to fully visualize a complete understanding of this system(though I got the general idea fairly well)...but a video would better show the system: how it functions, attachment set up and adjustments particulars.

Harder to do, might be to simulate or actually create a real release example by purposely creating a sudden extreme out of control force.

If this is being sold at cost, it is admirable and a rare gesture.

Hi,

The auto release system has been proposed by Rico in the French forum. http://www.powerkite.net/forumSM/index.php?topic=33772.150


Here my small version:

Manual release
The Kamove release can be found here http://kiteattitudefr.votreboutiquepro.fr/largueurs/kit-larg... is one on the right



http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=7&u=18395119

In red the platform (where the pulley screw will pass).
In green where the rubber band maintaining the closed position
In blue ..du the release.

The assembly requires a pulley, a fastening for the pulley, a release cord with something to pull it and a fastening cord.
The manual assembly should look like this:

http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/img20130803091316.php

The autorelease. Assembly

http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=8&u=18395119

In blue the autorelease.
In red the closing rubberband.
In yellow a stainless steel ring 40mm diameter. This ring will be attached to the carabiner of the manual Kamouve.

In green the autorelease cord.
Two small knots(“petit noeud”). The first one helps to stop the cord’s sliding. It should not be to close the autorelease, just underneath when the autorelease is open. The second knot is used to tie the autorelease “lengh” to the buggy.


USING THE SYSTEM

Manual release.
Using the manual auto release is not complicated: attach the kite with the (kamove / pulley / harness) I pull the release, it is not more complicated than that.

Autorelease
Verify the autorelease is “armed”, i.e. that is closed and the stainless ring (YELLOW) is in place.
Attach the kite with the Kamove. Get in the buggy. Grasp the stainless ring and fix it to the carabiner. The system is ready.

To get off the buggy, if I want to keep my kite attached, I pull the stainless ring or the carabiner.

Quote: Originally posted by bigkid

Quote: Originally posted by betosoria   Hi, I was wondering if you have seen the release http://kiteattitudefr.votreboutiquepro.fr/largueurs/kit-larg... What do you think about it? Saludos. Alberto Hola Alberto. 441lbs is a lot of weight before it deploys, or more it says. That works out to be me, my buggy, my kite and Levi along with about 120 extra lbs. Also they recommend to replace it after a year, might be the rubberband breaks down and wont work after that.

The release certainly deploys under a slight charge. It deploys even under heavy loads like 150kg(330lbs). I think that this is what Jeff is taking about.

You can take a look at

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UClfLWizk0johCFls8TLlR4Q?feat...

http://vimeo.com/70873060 pass:autolargueur
https://vimeo.com/70870011

More on the loads of the release:

Got the message from Rico:

"it resists not 150kg but 300kg.. the manual release must deploy with a force less than 10kg with a charge of 200kg, it must resist 300kg. The measures I made make the release deploy with less than 5kg.. it is even better".

"il ne resiste pas à 150 mais à 300kg ..le largueur manuel doit larger sous charge par une force de moins de 10 kg en charge de 200 , il doit resisté à 300 kg de charge .mes mesure faite le largueur declenche à moins de 5 kg .. c'est encore mieux"

betosoria, from the video that system looks like it works well, however it appears that the pulley and release stay with the kite, this is what I like about the MK splitter, the pulley and release stay with you and only the kite is released.

Quote: Originally posted by MDK

My local welder would build me a buggy for that

:o:o:o What is he building it out of? I can't even buy the material for that price. Unless it is steel...

also, the rig doesn't like salt water...!

Quote: Originally posted by WELDNGOD

Quote: Originally posted by MDK   My local welder would build me a buggy for that :o:o:o What is he building it out of? I can't even buy the material for that price. Unless it is steel...

Yeah I was exaggerating,

Quote: Originally posted by popeyethewelder

also, the rig doesn't like salt water...!

Hello my name is rico ..i m french sorey for my language.

translation
the width is a width for kite surfing .. not planned for salt water?
it is a real normed 52-503 width under load tested in the laboratory .. and works even in manual.

Popeye .. reminds you of me? you had a system copy (hard copy) ...
width that it works as a CE

Popeye is you ready to test your width?
by -18 ° ... with 70% sand and 10% water?

that your width always fonctione with these constraints?
with a break - 300 KG?
Thy width works with a force of less than 10 kg under a load of 200kg TRUE? :D

Kamove the width is a proto made ​​for NOT MAKING MONEY

made for either manual or automatic release less than 100 euros :P

Quote: Originally posted by rico

Quote: Originally posted by popeyethewelder   also, the rig doesn't like salt water...! Hello my name is rico ..i m french sorey for my language. translation the width is a width for kite surfing .. not planned for salt water? it is a real normed 52-503 width under load tested in the laboratory .. and works even in manual. Popeye .. reminds you of me? you had a system copy (hard copy) ... width that it works as a CE

I must apologise if this system is ok with salt water, I was given this information 2nd hand, obviously wrong. I must confess I am struggling with the rest of your post

the system

hanging stall
http://vimeo.com/73556583
the only problem is to automatically open hands :D

I do not know who you have to know this information ...
I guess almost ..

POPEYE you do not remember me?
Rhooo ..... a system of autolargage copy powerkite.net, but possibilities of loops
I send a mel .. You do not remember? me yes
okay .. the system is not made ​​for the biznzss 250 euros .. it is a personal installation less than 100 euros

It is made of aluminium. The advantage is that it releases even when it is full of sand. For example , a Wichard will not release under load with sand in it. I wonder if the Mk splitter will release under150kg of load, I would think it will. Also, it would be interesting to know if the Mk splitter can release with sand and water in it. The Mk splitter is kind of large and heavy. I wonder how much does the Mk splitter weight and it’s dimensions. Rico’s KAmove based designed can be 19cm with a Holt pulley around 207g only the manual release.
The KAmove is made for kite surfing, so it will work in salt water. I guess that in order to maintain a highly reliability as a security device designers suggest that is changed every year, from here Popeye’s comment that in a sense it does not “like” salt water but id does work with it present.
However, it should be noted that the KAmove has been tested in a lab under a specific norm, to my knowledge, the only release that complies with a norm. It would be interesting to know if the Mk Spitter would pass the lab test to be certified under the norm. Even not in lab it would be good to know if the Mk Splitter, with a piston design, will release with sand and under heavy load.

I am really no sure which system is the best for me. I hope that Mike, or the designers, can do some tests with the Mk Splitter in order to have more info on it in order to make my mind on which more suitable and to know the advantages of each one.

I am ready to make a system for exchange of test in real conditions .. no problems
I am ready
The tests will be done on static gantry load of 100 kg .. with release by autolargueur
then test done by a dynamic driver.
It suits me very well

I therefore propose the deal? OK for me

the Kamove is CE 52-503

no problem


http://saucisseman.free.fr/afnor/FA135940.pdf

Quote: Originally posted by betosoria

The advantage is that it releases even when it is full of sand. For example , a Wichard will not release under load with sand in it.

Not true... You have been using the WRONG one. A torsion Wichard does not have a pin. It will release with heavy load and covered with sand.

I am having trouble with rico's posts but if he is comparing to the MK splitter, the MK splitter does not use a wichard. The biggest advantage of the MK splitter is that the rigging stays with the pilot and is not released with the kite. my previous set-up (similar to the one above) nearly broke my jaw while testing it. as far as how the MK splitter holds up to sand and water I wouldn't know, my playground is in the desert and once I used a small amount of lube I had no trouble with it. Popeye, did you have any trouble with sand? when I received the MK splitter my first thought was that it was a little heavy and how was this going to affect things, well it didn't much, I swapped my strop for a little heavier one to prevent twisting and the extra weight was not noticeable. Also does the KA come with a pulley? that will account for some difference in cost. with the MK the swivel and pulley ride on replaceable sealed bearings. please know that I am a consumer on this and am not paid or compensated for my opinion on the MK splitter. BTW MK does not stand for Mike Kenley

Gerd Tschampel has years of experience with the MK Splitter, he is a solo distance record holder and advocate of the MK splitter https://www.facebook.com/gerd.tschampel

e separator is a Kamove width kite surfing .. snowkiting is made for it as tested is validated.
The wishar is only a separator charge for boat .. so not planned for kite surfing.
This is a separator wishar OK, but it does an automatic system?

I'm not paying either for advertising ..

SEVERAL person uses the system .. the system Kamove have been used for the tournament europe BORKUM .. no problem,

to maintain the KAmove is also rinse with a small and a drop of oil

the width is planned for functioned kit surfing and snow kiting .. therefore necessarily in salt water .. AND by negative temperature of - 18 °

do not know Gerd Tschampel .
I request an automatic width ca not drive fast .... but open when prompted .
I am not sponsored by anyone . I give facts I verified under load .. not pulling over . automatic complete system works ..

after you have installed this system , I am sure he should even to beginners .

the price is estimated at about 100 euros ready to be used

I contacted SEVERAL manufacturing wing .... ca interested do that if I give them a prototype

There have been no follow

KITEATTIDUDE have already contacted also OZONE and Peter Lynn .

they go with the prototype and after it is finished.

I have no business gait , today I have three prototype .. it works very well . So I keep them . although I remain alone in using this system . it's perfect for my use .

those who REALLY view the system , find it very interessant.le only problem is the rose. I am not a commercial .. I made ​​just for fun and sharing .. I did not win one of euros this idea.

if some are interested ... Contact KITATTIDUDE ..
cordially

sorry for my english .. this is the google translation

uhhh
I do not run every day in the desert .. the temperature is slightly cooler here in my home ...

I guess england enters a new era ... it's so hot in home?

the planette warms .. I still hope for the rest of KAMOVE if the climate warms and the salty water become something endangered

If you have any questions, no problem (french forum PKN)
cordially
rico