cool at least the charger in 19 seems to stay in the sky , even at these very low winds. how much wind was ist? 4-6 knots?

Page glitches this am ?

@tobytobsen: did you observe the launch process? how much was it pre-inflated? how easy did it launch? how much wind was it estimated? did it always stay in the sky, or was the wind so low that it dropped?

some good looking kites at that meet...........Yaks, UTurns, Cooper, Reactor, Pyscho 3 and Speed 2. With no zipper and BOVS, the Speed 3s are even lighter but Ill keep my S2s..........so how did the Charger fair in light conditions......................it was airborn and........................................

Peter Lynn Charger* (kite only)

* 8m : $1050
* 10m : $1150
* 12m : $1250
* 15m : $1350
http://www.kiteboard.com.au/specials.php

way too expensive for me, i think ill buy a synergy

But aren't those Aussie dollars? (not that it makes such a big difference after shipping!)

PL says charger KO will be slightly less than the Syn in. The Navigator bar will be more by a goodly amount.

Hard to compare Aussie dollars to US. With the weak US dollar I am shipping product to australia and even with shipping it seems to work for them.

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Originally posted by acampbell PL says charger KO will be slightly less than the Syn in. The Navigator bar will be more by a goodly amount.

I will add one thing to this, because it took me by surprise. The Charger kite only price will be cheaper then the price of the Synergy when the Synergy was first released. I had forgot that the Synergy had a price drop a while back. So don't expect the price to be cheaper than the current synergy kite only price and definitely not cheaper than the current close out pricing for those of you got to take advantage of that

I really cant say how much wind is was, not really enough to get going with anything. Well, do you know these kind of tents which are like jumping castles? I think they used that to fill it up. :o)
I could not fill my VII enough with this low wind.
It seemed to have a good amount more bottom end then other arcs. Guntram said that he soon would come to Düsseldorf, when there is more wind, so we could test fly it.

I am really second guessing myself now....

I have saved up for a new Charger, but for that cost I could get a High and Low wind ARC used.....

Tough decisions

Brian

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Originally posted by sofa king Peter Lynn Charger* (kite only) * 8m : $1050 * 10m : $1150 * 12m : $1250 * 15m : $1350 http://www.kiteboard.com.au/specials.php way too expensive for me, i think ill buy a synergy

i wouldnt go by those prices, they ARE NOT confirmed. there are no available Chargers anywhere. currently there is only 30 Chargers in the world, and all with TRs.

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Originally posted by DAKITEZ Quote: Originally posted by acampbell PL says charger KO will be slightly less than the Syn in. The Navigator bar will be more by a goodly amount. I will add one thing to this, because it took me by surprise. The Charger kite only price will be cheaper then the price of the Synergy when the Synergy was first released. I had forgot that the Synergy had a price drop a while back. So don't expect the price to be cheaper than the current synergy kite only price and definitely not cheaper than the current close out pricing for those of you got to take advantage of that

im taking advantage of that close out price, im glad i waited. Though i am a bit worried that i could get scammed at this price O.o

does anyone remember how much a syn cost when they first hit the market?

$999 and $1079 for the 12 and 15 complete. $749 and $829 kite only. That is MSRP from PL.

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Originally posted by BeamerBob $999 and $1079 for the 12 and 15 complete. $749 and $829 kite only. That is MSRP from PL.

That is what i thought as well BB, but they were higher when they first came out. I will try and find the original if i can, not that it will really matter but it will give some sort of idea.

That is on a price list I have from back in March and a newer one as well. I stand corrected if my info isn't accurate.

Unfortunately i do not have the original list either. I did have a conversation about this with Marijn when I was ordering your kite. He told me it was so long ago that the price was dropped that most had forgot about it. I think honestly we in the states never knew the original price because the synergy had been out awhile before we all took on PL as dealers. I have a rough idea what my cost on a charger 15m is, but I don't want to spread rumors on non-official information.

Remember that their whole distribution model changed after the Syn first came out, so dealers did not have those retail prices. If they are comparing to those prices then yeah my Toyota was cheaper too.

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Originally posted by DAKITEZ Unfortunately i do not have the original list either. I did have a conversation about this with Marijn when I was ordering your kite. He told me it was so long ago that the price was dropped that most had forgot about it. I think honestly we in the states never knew the original price because the synergy had been out awhile before we all took on PL as dealers. I have a rough idea what my cost on a charger 15m is, but I don't want to spread rumors on non-official information.

syns were released in Dec 2007 ... i could go back if you really wanted but it will be in CAN Funds.

lol. canadians in front again, Dino wears a skirt. :moon:

Winds in Germany never got over 10 knots, but yeah the 19 flew (barely, pre inflated with the tent, and on 50m lines)
unfortunately enough because this event was set out to be the biggest Euro KLB event ever.

I almost don't dare to say but Chargers comin in real soon now, I can't give a exact releasedate though untill the factory ships them out.
Our director is going for talks with the factory now because of all the delays we had to cope with this year.

@marijn:
i can understand your situation. a relative of mine is running a business where he sells carp fishing gear (tents, rods and stuff) and the tents and sleeping bags are produced in china. they had all sort of difficulties (loong delays, oversea shipping problems, rotten stuff because things got wet, and alternating manufacturing quality)...
how do you handle shifting quality ? do you test the kites after they arrive at your warehouse? at least a random sampling? would be a great thing..
there is this story about one shipment of pl scorpions in 13sqm was not sewn correctly..

@all: what would you think? would the 15sqm charger be the optimal size for the lower wind days? or even the 12sqm ? but i suppose the old rule of subtracting 2 sqm to get an equivalent tube size still holds? but then i already have a 10.5 naish helix 09 tube kite - so the 15 sqm would fit in better.. (imass: 62kg)

I am happy to hear that someone is working on the production issues.

Even if the Charger comes out " soon " the timing isn't as good ( for me at least ). It will be too late for Christmas then Jan - Mar. tend to be slow months . I suppose that may not apply to an international market though ?

I bought 3 used and new P.L. kites with the money I had set aside for my Charger. Now I have to save up again.

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Originally posted by Bladerunner I am happy to hear that someone is working on the production issues. Even if the Charger comes out " soon " the timing isn't as good ( for me at least ). It will be too late for Christmas then Jan - Mar. tend to be slow months . I suppose that may not apply to an international market though ? I bought 3 used P.L. kites with the money I had set aside for my Charger. Now I have to save up again.

Same here. I had cash in the bank in late September. Now I have a venom 13 and 19m. I also replaced my 12m synergy with a 15. I'll be set for awhile now.

I viewed a couple of Charger/kitesurfing vids on you tube over the weekend.......I believe it was a 15m in 10/11 up to 13/14...................there was a wind meter in the field of view but I couldnt make out kts or mph..........................the kite looked stiff, worked upwind, and jumped well..................................

yes, that video is quite impressive! but still i am not sure if the jump from synergy to charger is that large as promised. we will see if first user reviews are going in.

TAKING CHARGE ... COMING DEC 1.2009

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOO!!!

so glad i live on Holland Time. ROFL.

Yeah finally shipping from the Nether regions Dec 1 and prices posted later this morning. Put your seat belts on, though...

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prices posted later this morning. Put your seat belts on, though...

whats up with the prices *afraid* ?

Navigator bar and lines are $485 alone. Chargers Complete start at $1,045 for the 6m

:eekdrull::eekdrull: that bar/lines must be made of gooold

:o

oh well !!! i guess i'm going to use my z7 bar until i ear
that the nav one makes that big a difference..