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Navigator bar and lines are $485 alone. Chargers Complete start at $1,045 for the 6m

Holy Crap!!! Guess I'll be hanging on to my VII's a little longer...

I don't get what makes a bar so expensive. Its just not very complicated of a thing, at least it shouldn't cost over 200.

THE CHARGER IS IMMINENT IN THE UK, 1ST DECEMBER IVE HEARD

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Originally posted by power I don't get what makes a bar so expensive. Its just not very complicated of a thing, at least it shouldn't cost over 200.

Well for what it's worth, it does appear to have a lot of engineering into it with adjustable width, new safety at the chicken loop, adjustable throw. And they all come with 3m line extensions. But yeah I blinked too and I kinda knew it was coming.

Looks like the Navigator is only $315 if you get it with a new Charger. That seems pretty reasonable to me.

the bar is supplied with lines

the Twinskin Bar RTF is $ 390.00 USD

its its only 90.00 more if you think about it.

it would be nice if they ship Kite + Bar ... I could use my old lines.

yep !!! not that bad

i can't wait,ican't wait,i can't wait:singing::roll::wee:

Am I correct in the opinion that any long throw bar will get the most out of your new Charger ?
That the zero 7 bar will work but you won't get the most of the kite ?

Would it not be possible to just put a kit on your zero7 ( or other 4 line bar) to make it long throw? I think Best sell a kit for 1 or $150 ???

Any chance P.L. will sell a kit to upgrade your Zero7's throw ?

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Originally posted by acampbell Navigator bar and lines are $485 alone. Chargers Complete start at $1,045 for the 6m

@Bladerunner: as the chargers new bridle is basically the old VPC system with added pulleys that double the steering impulse (afaik), i am quite sure that any normal kitesurfing bar with long throw will work fantastic on the charger. i am using a SLE naish 2009 bar for my scorpion. works fantastic, see my youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7EBwSDB5mg .

It was while watching that video that I saw what looks like the perfect bar to me. I'm glad you spoke up.
Naish know their stuff
I am too lazy to check but I doubt your bar goes for the price the Nav' is reported to be ?

I have to think that with VP3 and a stiffer kite you should see huge improvement even on you old P.L. bar?

I think the Nav' has it all. I would hate to think that people may shy away from a great kite because they can't afford the bar .
I doubt there will be a substitute for the Charger but I see options for controling it ?

well, the naish bar is not bad, but it hase imho some drawbacks:

1. the swivel does not really turn (maybe if you put some special weapon oil on it)
2. if the swivel would finally turn, the yellow safety line that goes to one frontline would tangle around the depower chord. if too often wound around the depower , a would be afraid that it would not properly work if quickreleased.

but otherwise, i really like my naish bar. and you can often get it on ebay for a bargain.

Is the Synergy bar the Zero 7?

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Originally posted by kiteNH Is the Synergy bar the Zero 7?

Yes, although it's just called the "Twinskin bar" bar now, as they don't associate it with a year anymore.

Sorry,

My Syn has a " twin skin " bar. I just like saying Zero 7 . Sounds so 007 !

I am not going to allow the cost of the Navigator stop me from ordering a Charger.

im going with a 19 and 10 :singing:

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Originally posted by ripsessionkites im going with a 19 and 10 :singing:

Rip I thought there was a minimum height requirement just to order the 19m, let alone fly it.

i laid claim to my 15m :D i had the money saved up since august. cannot wait!!!!!

my quiver will be 10, 12 and 15m. cant wait

Are you getting those for free?

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Originally posted by power Are you getting those for free?

If he is, no matter... search for his vids on youtube and you'll see how much he's put into the sport....

I see what you are thinking Power

It will take a little searching but we had a great discussion about what sponsorship / team riding gets you last spring.

Lets just say. Keep your day job !:D

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Originally posted by power Are you getting those for free?

not quite

"with great power come great responsibility!!"

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Originally posted by csa_deadon Quote: Originally posted by ripsessionkites im going with a 19 and 10 :singing: Rip I thought there was a minimum height requirement just to order the 19m, let alone fly it.

go big or go home

the windrange for the 15 and the 19 are nearly the same. I like bigger kites than smaller ones (same thing applies for me when buggying with short lines) ....

a. im light so ill float more
b. i've pushed the 15 / 16m arcs to the limit and than some, so the windrange is WIDE.
c. i was looking at the low end more than the high end
d. i plan on kitesurfing for the winter months (thx BR for the Drysuit) GP just became my new sandbar "the ring".

Lets ride!!! CHARGE!!!